Not Looking Good.
I might have chosen the losing side on the the Proposition 2 issue. This doesn't mean at all that I've chosen the wrong side. Just about al lthe right sided blogsters are for Prop 2. and I feel like I'm standing alone. The thing is I understand how people are uncomfortable about gay marriages. I understand how they can feel that a homosexual lifestyle is wrong. But. . . To me the propositition is about hate, and intolorance.Why should any straight person care if a gay person gets married? Its really none of our bussiness is it? I also feel that a marriage is between a man and a woman. Thats why I married a woman. If someone feels otherwise why should my beliefs be instilled on them. Its none of my bussiness. I nor anyone else should have to like it.
So I will go and vote against Proposition tommorrow knowing its a real long shot. Then again in 1980 I thought Reagan didn't stand a chance.
posted by Liberty @ 12:43 PM
6 Comments:
As a gay man on the other side of the world I thank you for your wisdom! If only everyone had a sense of empathy that you obviously do.
thanks
Thanks you for expressing my views exactly. I lean right and am amazed that everyone does not see this prop as a hate an intolerance issue. To me it is exactly like the race issues in the 60's. Why don't people see it like that?
Anyway, thanks for standing up and speaking your views!
Can't go along with you on this one, Liberty, (which is a "first.")
The gay activists are attempting to impose their values on the rest of us through the court system, and we aren't going to accept that.
I don't know if you know any "in your face gay" activists, but I do, and they are filled with hatred and intolerance for the majority of us, who don't agree with them that their lifestyle is "normal" and should be accepted as "normal."
Their application of those words to their opponents is itself both a symptom of their prejudice and intolerance for those who disagree with them, and a textbook example of Orwellian Newspeak.
Tyler,
I sure would hate for anyone to agree with me all the time. Lots of activist are disagreeable and unlikable. That doesn't mean they don't have a point. I see the marriage thing going beyond only Gays. Civil unions should be able to be be made by any couple. They can serve a very useful purpose to some couples who aren't romantically or sexually involved. Old people sometimes can gain independent years living together no sex, no church not even romance is involved. I knew couples that have married to protect each other when they died Wills aren't always so cheap, and can be contested much easier than a marriage.
I don't claim to be the most tolorant of humans, I am not comfortable around flamers, and puplic gay displays of affections. but that is my problem to deal with. I do not see how in any way gays getting married or getting a civil union will harm us heterosexuals. If nothing else at maybe their paying for the marriage lisence will affect my taxes.
Liberty-
You must have known I wouldn't be able to resist this one. Good for you - I was very happy to read the original post, but I do want to ask you a question about your follow-up post. If you do not feel comfortable around public displays of affection between gay people, I have to ask, do you feel comfortable around public displays of affection between a straight couple? Is it the sight itself which bothers you, or is it possible that what actually bothers you is the fact that 2 people are sharing a private moment in the public sphere, regardless of sexual orientation? Just curious.
-V
V,
I hadn't thought about it much, but I think it makes me uncomfortable on a couple of levels. Part of it is that most public affection, or highly emotional situation would make me uncomfortable. Among a heterosexual couple long good bye kisses at an an airport might not be all that inapropriate, but its sorta wierd and uncomfortable to be real close to to a couple engaged in such a long embrace.
Another issue involves ones comfort zone. In social situations as one varys away from norms, the further we get away from our comfort zones. Although I know several gay folks in bussiness and social situations, I don't know many gay couples. Therefore an affectionate gay couple would not be within my norms, and would contribute to my being uncomfortable with it in a social situation. I do believe I'm adaptable and would get over it.
Many years ago, it terrified me to be in a place where no one spoke my language. I ended up in Germany with the Army and quickly got used to it. Today I love going into Mexico, and have gone a few times alone. Its no longer outside my norm. I believe most people are the same about being outside what is their norm. Others might relish newer and different environs.
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